As a Christian, many public venues, media, advertising contain things which offend me, but I don’t somehow think I own the world, nor do I seek to sterilize it from everything I don’t like. The Freedom From Religion people need to stop whining and grow up.

Why is it always the majority that suffer from these kinds of things…it is time for the people to say “I AM MAD AS HELL, AND AM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE”..If the one person that does not like the sign, would just not look at it, things would be fine.,..To that sign hater …MERRY CHRISTMAS….

Christmas IS about Christ. We stole it from a pagan holiday initially, and then it was founded in the US as a holiday to celebrate the birth of Christ.

IF you wish to celebrate this holiday WITH us, then you are welcome to do so. However, do not attempt to belittle, malign, edit, or destroy the purpose of the holiday in the process. If that is your view point, then perhaps you don’t need to celebrate Christmas with the rest of us. Perhaps you need to start a holiday of your own, called something else, not Christmas.

If I have to look at abortion clinics and needle exchanges every day when I’m walking around downtown, I think you libs can handle a banner one month out of the year.

Christmas is the celebration of the birth of the only Son of God; His name is Jesus and Amen!

it is OFFENSIVE as an American to have MY American Culture spat upon. CHRISTmas is part of our American culture. Too many are offending us Americans when they try and replace it with “Holiday” Holiday refers to CHRISTmas and New Years combined. There are NO Holiday gifts or Holiday Lights, they are Christmas Gifts and Christmas Lights and Christmas tree etc. Please EVERYONE push back on anyone “all of the media and a large part of commerce” that has removed the word Christmas and offensively replaced it with Holiday. DO NOT let this element disrespect our Culture as Americans. Anyone else is Free to celebrate their culture on OUR land, but they have NO right to try and Change our Culture on Our land !!!

What would these “unnamed residents” want? Merry ______mas?

ridiculous.

Not only have the militant atheists been attacking Christianity, but Muslims are getting intio the act too.

“At this season of the Winter Solstice, may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds,” said Seidel.

So, Seidel, it’s ok to force your opinion/belief system on others. Double standards is what I call that. As a person who celebrates the Solstice, your message disgusts me.

FYI: Lord is the title. As Dr. or Mr. Jesus is Yeshua or Joshua in Hebrew which means God saves. This is Jesus’ only name. Christ is Kristos in Greek which means Messiah. The Christmas Day is only for Lord Jesus Christ. No one else. One and only one holiday here. As a Christian, I really think Christians should celebrate the resurrection of Jesus more than any other. Every man is born, every man dies, but only one, the Son of Man is resurrected. If we didn’t have the resurrection of Christ, then there would be no Christianity. This truly makes Jesus God.
Merry Messiahmas

Typical Liberal trash. Another day, another hate story, different topic yet the same philosophy. Why do Liberals hate this country and hate God so much I wonder? They really are very much cut from the same cloth as Al-Qaeda and they don’t even see it.

How about, if you’re offended, don’t look at it?
If you want a winter holiday “kind” of like Christmas, by all means have one and name it something appropriate like “Insane Compulsive Gift Giving Day”.
This IS a religious holiday, like it or not, no matter how hard you try to secularize it.

Hang your sign in Wisconsin, Seidel. In YOUR town. We don’t celebrate the “Season of the Winter Solstice” in Pitman, NJ – In fact, there is no such thing.

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Christmas, it’s a Christian Holiday. Don’t celebrate it if you don’t believe in it. And having a sign celebrating it, and expressing what the holiday is about is not pushing any type of religious views on anyone. I think persecuting people who want to celebrate it for what it is about, the birth of Jesus, is medieval. We can have black history month, even though its exclusive, we can have independence day, which can be taken sensitively by the English, we can have thanksgiving even though we all know what has happened to the native Americans, St Valentine’s day everyone seems ok with… However when it comes to Christmas, the big corporations are out to make money, and they can’t just depend on Christians during the month of December to do it, so they need to appeal to all. And thus the seed is implanted into people’s minds to lobby for this idea by expressing that this holiday is some type of taboo holiday all of a sudden. I just laugh when you need to be tolerant to everyone’s race, sexual preference, and religion…unless it has to do with Christianity or Catholism.

“It’s a group endorsing religion over a public right of way,” said Andrew Seidel, the group’s constitutional consultant. If you take this to the next level, this group would object to bumper stickers on cars that use or park on the public right of way. Go Knights of Columbus!

First-Let the unnamed come forward. The accused has a right to face the accuser. GUTLESS
2nd.What does Wis have to do with what Pa. does.

Here we go again with the evil one deeds!Poeple need to stop with this Atheists type thinking! Mind your business and move on! You do not own that property where the sign hangs.Whta is the problem if it was hanging there all those years? That is what is wrong in this world! There is too much evil and hate,the evil rearing thier ugly head and it always seems to be around before Christmas comes!we need sprituality more then ever now of all the terrible things happened throughout 2011!Let us pray!

“Unnamed Residents” complaining?! Don’t have the courage to complain – reminds me of the muslim terrorists that are always covering their faces – true cowards at best

I have a gesture I would like to make to the anti-Christians out there who can do nothing but hate Christianity. I like to refer to the gesture as the “fickle-finger-of-fate.”

If it said let’s keep “Muhammad in Mecca” no one would have noticed or said anything. THAT’s how you know Jesus is real!

as usual have no idea what the Constitution says about religion. It simply says there can not be a state religion. It does not say anything about anyone expressing their beliefs publicly. This is always a leftist ploy because they believe the government is God .

It sounds like the representative from the foundation is the one with the hard heart
:-)

Just because the city endorses it doesn’t mean that the constitution prohibits the sign. The constitution was designed to keep the federal government from forcing religious views down our throats. Each state was intended to to have the right to endorse religious views, if they want. Each state was a different sect of Christianity during the drafting of the constitution, no state wanted any other to tell them how to worship.

The millions of Christian Latin American immigrants/aliens now living in the US are laughing at you and your silly predictions.

Enough already.
MERRY CHRISTmas :)

dip sh@t alert

Obsessed spazz alert for Scarf!

Scarf, I hope and pray that you will find out about this wonderful man that was Jesus Christ before you days on Earth are over. If not, get used to a severe sunburn.

Christmas IS about Christ, always has been, always will be. If you wish to celebrate that WITH us, then you’re welcome to do so. However, don’t attempt to change, belittle, or hide the intent of Christmas in the process. Otherwise, celebrate another holiday, not Christmas.

So wo is twisting your arm?

How would someone be forcing THEIR Christmas on YOUR Christmas. Do tell!

I’m confused, Scarf… do you celebrate your Christmas void of Jesus Christ? That makes me giggle.

“Without belief in God or immortality, evil-doing is not only necessary, but permissible…” Fyodor Dostoevsky

Hey, Scarf – Ever take a course in logic. Explain to me how you take “Christ” out of “Christ”mas. Seems it’s there by definition – no?

I think it comes from the understanding that “Christmas” has little to nothing to do with Christ. Never has. He wasn’t born then, it was established then to help make converting people at the time easier. I don’t think Christ would approve of the materialist ways that make up our current holiday celebration. In fact I fail to see where Christ fits into Christmas at all.

Christ stated “All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.All coming to pass just as he stated, the hate of Jesus from the leftists only strengthens and confirms my faith.

I don’t believe in anything. I was never ” presented ” to any church, temple or place or worship. But the sign doesn’t bother me. It wouldn’t bother me not even if it was posted on a public place. I had enough with these so called liberals-progressives. Worry about important things, not about a sign that doesn’t offend anyone and hangs from a private property. Losers!!!

I’m curious to know how their lives are positively enhanced when they succeed in stomping on someone’s faith… sounds wicked, to me. I think they just get a thrill out of the destruction of Holy symbols.

How tolerant and enlightened of you.

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Hey bob here’s the UC to go with your FK and I’ll add the OFF. Merry CHRISTmas everyone.

Enjoy your life while it lasts, someday it will end.
WHy is that so hard to understand?

lol, I wont enjoy anything while I am rotting, niether will you. Some worms might enjoy you though.

Its not hard to understand, I accept that. I believe there is something much better waiting for me on the other side of death other than becoming worm food. I feel sorry for your lack of uplifting beliefs. Enjoy rotting.

You don’t know enough to know there is no God. You don’t know enough to know that when your life on earth ends, there is not another dimension where you will live on in greater intensity than you could have ever imagined while on earth. What the ignorant call “supernatural” is only life according to laws we have not yet understood. Mock and scoff if you choose; some day you will truly know. I only pray the Lord Jesus Christ will soften your heart now while you’re still alive, that you may receive Him and escape the eternal damnation you sneer at with such haughtiness.

yeah, you could say a lot of atheists seem to actually like playing God rather than believing in the real One.

Glass houses? Casting the first stone? Judge not? Tolerance?
Any of that mean anything to you?

Way to “Keep Christ in Christmas” there Barry! And yes, that would be sarcasm.

Militant mode here— responding to the would-be attack on my freedom.

On the contrary, I am very well versed in the ancient history of the Solstice. Please don’t take the liberty to assume you know a THING about me, my beliefs, OR my education. I’ll thank you in advance.

You are free to leave this Christian nation, founded by hearty souls such as my ancestor, William Brewster of the Mayflower.

Our Christian tolerance for the likes of (generic not personal) you seems to have been a catastrophic error, which unfortunately, will be corrected in a manner most unchristian. Just saying — it’s the way history works where Jesus Christ does not rule the hearts of men.

You atheists surely understand this.

Repent and come to your Lord. He forgives, especially unbelief become belief.

Amen.

Well said

Very good! Go GKC!

I wanna know why their religion or beliefs are more important than others, what i would do is say we all of faith have to stand up and say no more, no more. just stand up

Thanks for YOUR OPINION but You’re not very smart.

So True!

Exactly!

Not quite! The true messiah (the Christ, which both mean the anointed), has nothing to do with x-mas. This day was started in around 325 A.D., and it had nothing to do with him at all. It was taken in because the pagans were celebrating their religion, so they put the name “Christ-mas” upon it.

The true messiah, Yahushua (aka Jesus), was born in early Oct., which was Oct. 3, 7 B.C.E. on the Day of Atonement. Not in Dec.

Please tell us in this day and time when there is so much information available that you can’t understand this fact? Are do you wish to be constantly deceived?

Have you read the deathbed quotes of Voltaire or Thomas Paine, Jay? Perhaps you should look them up and be enlightened.

Wow, that was brilliant!

he is a lot smarter than you jay.

Bruce, & James. Thank you for a couple of replies that respect the intent of my ruminations. I respect your spirits.

Mithras, was born of a virgin in a cave on December 25, and worshipped on Sunday. He died and was resurrected in order to become a messenger god, an intermediary between man and the good god of light, and the leader of the forces of righteousness against the dark forces of the god evil.

What is your point? Yeah, the Christmas tree isn’t mentioned in the Bible. Neither is December 25th. Some other traditions revolved around such things. So? And? You’re just a bitter grinch. Oops – “the grinch” isn’t mentioned in the Bible either! Using the term must mean I’m a brainwashed Pagan!!111

I am an atheist. Atheism is not a religion. There are no beliefs or practices that one must adhere to to be an atheist. In fact, the only thing I have in common with other atheist is a *lack* of belief regarding the supposed existence of a God or Gods.

The idea that life, absent a belief in your God, is “dark and meaningless,” is your belief, not mine. I have friends and family, loved ones that bring immense meaning to my life.

As for my behavior, I don’t subscribe to an “anything goes” ethic. One doesn’t have to read in a book that it’s wrong to rape, murder, or engage in other immoral acts. If the Bible is the only reason you don’t engage in such acts, then by all means, hold fast to your belief in Jesus.

As for Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao, while they were atheists, they were also communists, and communism, as they practiced it, was itself a religion. That said, they probably have more in common with you than they do me.

To Jason
Then you believe nothing made everything? Or do you subscribe that something made everything?

I’ll bet they don’t Esteban.

Atheism is the religion of smoking pot, not washing your hair, re-wording your non-belief as “Paganism” — needing a reason to worship witches, not washing your hair, body odor, low IQ, telling everybody else that their religion is false and just a by-product of “Paganism”, not washing your hair, and smoking pot.

There, did that cover it?

Now….get the kitty litter out of your mouth.

Look….we know it’s crunchy.

It’s amazing that while paraphrasing the 1st Amendment that you seem to conveniently leave out the part that says “Congress shall make no law respecting an established religion.” The people that are objecting to the display feel that using a public (that’s government owned btw) street can be construed as the government endorsing Christianity over other religions or those with no religious beliefs. The Bill of Rights was meant to protect everyone, not just Christians. If it was on private property, there’s not much anyone can really say about it.

Yeah prove your statement “There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell.” I’m thinking you’ll be hard pressed as they’re things in the natural world you can’t see or reason logically that exist. For example gravity is one such force that remains unseen you only feel its effect. Besides this organization does in fact have the constitutional right to place a sign and it say whatever they wish. If you don’t approve, don’t read the freakin’ sign.

Thank you for mentioning the “Action Actor” in this Amemndment, “Congress shall make no law…”

As long as you are going to be critical, let’s provide the entire Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It seems to me that these activists judges are preventing Americans from the “free exercise thereof”

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Close. It’s “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…” Huge difference. It was designed to prevent the government from forming the Church of England Part 2 and forcing all citizens to go to it. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with any already established religions, or lack of religion, or any one person’s chosen medium of expressing said religion (or lack thereof).

The so-called ‘separation’ clause technically does not prevent the government from ‘endorsing’ any one religion. It states that they cannot FORM a religion, nor can they prevent anyone from forming and following their own.

If sanity ruled the world, this wouldn’t be an issue, and there wouldn’t be a gaggle of fools known as the “Freedom from Religion Foundation” trying their damnedest to inject themselves into any news article possible.

A state or a small town is not Congress (aka the Feds). The people of the town have the constitutional right to express themselves and religion how they want. Even over a public road.

Wrong.

Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion.

Congress cannot make a state religion. That doesn’t forbid individuals or groups from promoting their religion. Individuals in a community should be able to use community property.

Fascist secularists want to control communities.

First Amendment or not, don’t let it stop you. God isn’t hung up by the first amendment! :)

Bob you can’t throw history or even facts at the mentally disturbed folks…..

Mithras is “history” and “facts” now, Randy? You’re just a bitter bigot.

Atheism is a religion as off is a TV channel. The only ones practicing paganism are the Christians…… if they believe it or not. Ever wonder where your Christmas trees or yule logs origionated? Ever wondered why all your “religious” holidays are on astronomical events? Religion is a mental illness.

Atheism IS a belief system. If it was the same as turning off the TV, then it would have no interest in denigrating the beliefs and practices of others. I understand that both Christians, Muslims, Jews and Atheists are all capable of hate speech, and it is unattractive wherever it turns up. Calling others mentally ill because they believe is hateful and bigoted. It sounds medieval. If you are not religious, why not just be happy with your choices? Why does your well-being seem to depend on spitting on the culture of others?

THANK YOU. I couldn’t agree more. After the rapture, they can have the place; at least for 7 years. Then, as the umpire will say, “you’re out!”

And that attitude is the reason the Freedom from Religion Foundation exists.

Let me guess, you think most of the Founders were deists, amiright? Take your own advice and learn history – REAL HISTORY, not twaddle on some Leftist blog or propaganda spouted by radical professors – you bigoted revisionist hack.

America has always been a predominantly Christian nation with a secular government.

You need to take your own advice.

Someone isn’t having a very good Christmas. Need a hug?

Where on Earth did you get this information?

Hah, coward atheists. Go to Iran and start your little Freedom from Religion Foundation. Let us know how that works out for you.

Christians and their values gave you the rights you abuse.

The Freedom From Religion people are free to express their opinions, but let’s be honest – they are not promoting something as much as they are denigrating the beliefs and practices of others. I find their activities similar to racism, burning crosses, Religions expression exists everywhere. Are they going to tear down all the buildings in Washington with religious themes engraved in them? Ban works of art from museums because they have a religious theme? Burn the Declaration of Independence because it refers to a Creator? Will we be forced to move all of these things to private property, away from the public square? I am going to practice civil disobedience then, hanging my lights and trees and signs and maybe even write a Bible verse on the sidewalk. Occupy Christmas!

Bill Vernon = Salad Tosser.

Don’t you have kids to be pedophiling?

Well said, Jay.

I don’t exactly hear a stampede to join your “cause”. LOL!!!!

sorry but the USA is not a christian country.

Your so unitelligent this is Not and Never wil be a “christian country” people have freedom of religion they are not forced to be christian as you propose, but please dont go hanging your signs around and force your beleifs down other people’s throats.

I’d love to hear your reaction to a Muslim call to prayer five times daily. You know…when the muezzin puts his lips to the microphone and broadcasts the call, in Arabic, loud enough to wake the dead? I’d love to see you tell them to practice their faith only in their home or mosque. And be sure to tell them it’s all “superstitious nonsense.” Oh, that’s right…atheists only have a problem with Christianity. I guess it has something to do with that “boom” thing, beheadings, and a distinct lack of tolerance when you criticize their faith.

Much safer to criticize someone who won’t kill you, right?

Don
Kabul, Afghanistan

Merry Christmas John. We’ll be praying for you, friend.

BTW, let me know when you prove that God doesn’t exist. I’d be very interested in that proof. Until then, if you are reasonable, you will have an open mind, right?

Well said Don! I’m an American temporarily in the Middle East (the beautiful UAE) and even they allow, encourage and help us to celebrate our Christmas here. In turn, I think the call to prayer of theirs is beautiful. There is peace here between Muslim and Christian and others alike, and it is beautiful, and fosters an environment where we can appreciate each other’s differences and learn from each other. Rather than everyone saying “Quick, hide your religion lest you offend” they embrace and ALL celebrate equally well in a symphony of cultures and joyous occasions. Someone is always celebrating something here, and it is truly wonderful! If only Americans could follow their lead! But no, American media won’t report on this, they’ll just continue to foster hate and intolerance. Being here has changed my life. Maybe someday the world will understand that the road to peace is not paved with political correctness, but tolerance! Tolerance!

The sign maybe hanging “Over” a Public Road, but the Sign is hanging on “Private Property.” Don’t Like It???? Move The Bloody Road Then! There’s always some idiot(s) who always complain about something. WHY? Because they have too much time on their hands & are “a bunch of nitpicks!” You don’t hear these idiot(s) complaining about Ramadan, do you? Also, concerning your point about “please dont go hanging your signs around and force your beleifs down other people’s throats.” You should “Practice What You Preach!” People like yourself are forcing your beliefs on Christians, sometimes even going to Court to have them enforced! So, you should be “Throwing Stones!” (shaking My Head & Rolling My Eyes)

afraid, angry , self righteous and guess one amongst them is the creator… a sad lot.. We all will one day meet our Maker… as will they

Try this Pascal’s Wager. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager you have nothing to loose

bob a prayer sent out for your lost soul. God Bless you… Merry CHRISTmas

I think you’ll be unpleasantly surprised at some point in the future. You’ll eat your words.

I offer a prayer to you, as well. May your life be blessed in the name of Jesus Christ.

@bob There is a plenty of evidence of the life of Jesus. Disagreeing with him being the Son of God is a matter of religion and faith. Denying that He actually existed is a matter of closing your eyes, sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting “la la la la”.

I believe in God and that Jesus is the son of God. Nobody will ever change that. If I’m wrong, I have lost nothing. If you’re wrong, you have lost eternal life.

Some one needs to check the laws in Pittman, because it states the sign is over a county road. I know in Texas that on a county road, the property owner is taxed to the center line in the road and the county’s responsibility is to maintain the road. I own property on both sides of the road, so does that mean I own the road and the county only responsibility is to maintain it by using the taxes they charge me. Remember anything not enumerated in the Constitution to the Federal Government reverts to the state or is retained by the people. Could make for an interesting argument.

Merry CHRISTmas.

J. Mayer, how do you know for certain that whatever you are arguing does not exist? Just curious to here your reasoning.

Mr. Mayer,

What is your address and phone number?

I will call you or visit so we can discuss the true meaning of CHristmas.

Steve, good argument!

But it does beg the question how do people KNOW that what they are arguing for DOES exist?

No thanks Amy – I don’t need your point of view forced upon me. You believe what you want to, and allow me to believe what I want.

“From MY perspective, its not fighting the message, its pushing back against the sheeple trying to force their beliefs on me.”

But it’s OK for the your minority, non-believers, to force it’s views on the rest of us?

What’s his mistake?

Yes, tell us what mistake Matt made in his statements. He is 100% correct. Obviously you have not studied the issue. The words “separation of church and state” appear nowhere in the Constitution. They appear only in a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to a group of Baptists in which he PROMISED them that the government would never interfer with their freedom of worship and belief. He meant exactly the OPPOSITE of how that phrase is being used today. The only thing the Constitution says about religion is that “Congress shall make no law” regarding religion or the free exercise thereof.

You’re the only who’s sadly mistaken, and even more sadly, you’re arguing about something of which you’re obviously ignorant. It would behoove you to educate yourself on the subject matter before you try to dismiss as incorrect the factually accurate arguments of others. Nothing is more boorish than an arrogant ignoramus.

There are no atheists in foxholes, or on deathbeds. One day, you’ll arrive at one of them…

Only God creates…

Ask all those killed by Atheistic regimes in the 20th century, who is fixated on death.

Faith in God, Hope in the Eternal gives us more life NOW, not just after death and not dependent on some earthly “Utopia”

Unfortunately for you, Jesus Christ was historical. He did perform miracles in front of thousands of people. In a court of law, he would indeed be called God. It doesn’t matter what rock you live under or the darkness that is what you call your life. Nothing in the Bible has ever been disproved, and it certainly hasn’t been from lack of trying, now has it?

Wow, what a insightful and intelligent input. Gee thanks…

Dustin, be a man and protest Radical Islam and get your ACLU to put a stop to Islamic prayer rooms in public schools. You attack Christians because you know they won’t physically attack you. So don’t be a pansy, attack Islam and see how long you live in one peice.

kmpk: I just did turd. Monotheism means all three religions. Christians/Islam/Judaism.
Don’t worry I hate all three equally…Religion doesn’t necessarily have to be an impediment to intellectual development. Of course, in ignorant people (majority of Christians/Muslims and you) religion is devastating, In that it cements, and validates the ignorance and makes intellectual growth virtually impossible…

Josh, I’m guessing you missed Danny’s entire point.

You might want to improve those reading skills before opening up that can of whoop-arse next time.

Daniel Staggers : lol – I had to screen shot your comment. It’s proof that Christians intelligence is the equivalent of a door knob. There is absolutely no historical evidence to suggest Jesus ever existed.

“Nothing in the Bible has ever been disproved” – really? The Bible is comically wrong about the sky and what causes rain. The Bible is very inaccurate in its claims about the moon, the earth’s orbit, the shape of the earth, cows, and slug slime.
The Bible’s story of creation contradicts what over 99% of all related scientists say is a solid scientific fact and the tale of the Great Flood contradicts its fair? share of modern knowledge too.
The Bible’s inaccurate claims of the earth’s and universe’s age goes against everything that we know about chemistry, physics, geology, biology, and astronomy which are the basis of all modern technology.?

You are a typical uneducated ignorant Christian.

????? “Nothing in the Bible has ever been disproved…” What does that matter…? Nothing in the book dianetics has ever been disproved either, guess the Scientologists are right too. In fact… nothing in the Koran has ever been disproved. Muslims = right. Torah? All fact. Once we find a way to rectify the irreconcilable differences between the books, seeing as how they’re all right (not disproved), we will arrive at absolute truth… assuming it isn’t disproved.

BTW – a place where God is truth in a court of law? You must be referring to Saudi Arabia, perhaps Iran? Waaaaaaaay better than our secular courts…

It is nice to see that you feel religion is not always an impediment to intellectual development. The great orthodox teachers like Issac the Syrian, Origen, and many pre-Romanic, pre-Protestant teachers carried an intellect that rivals any current teachers today. Christendom has done pleny to conceal the real Christ with it’s own piety and misunderstanding of scripture. I pray God meets you where you are today, and I dont judge your soul regardless. I respect your knowledge man.

You forget about the Salem witch trials? The French Wars of Religion? The Saxon Wars? inquisitions? The Reconquista? The Crusades? etc etc. Christians left a bloody path of destruction through the ffreaking ages, imposing their beliefs on everyone and killing anyone who opposed it. They hold the all-time record for killing more people than any other group in mankind;s history. FACT.

At least now people like me can speak against the legitimacy of the Bible and not worry about being burned alive by an angry mob with pitch forks.:P

You are mired in legalism. Reread Galatians.

The only evidence he existed is in the bible (no one who wrote in the bible was live when the events happend). all the historians alive at the time (of which there were many) fail to mention a man who can perform miracles like walking on water , healing the sick and turning water into wine proclaiming to be the son of god. Not the kind of thing that would go unnoticed. Many Christian cling to the works of Josephus as proof Jesus existed but the text in which he was mentioned was proven to be a forgery many years ago. So please tell me where this evidence is that we existed ?

It never was about Jesus. It was always a pagan holiday. Do some research.

‘Nobody wil ever change that’

Such clarity and confidence yet completely closed minded and quite childlike.

You cannot say 100% god and jesus existed the same way i can’t say 100% they didn’t. Dealing in absolutes is illogical and quite arrogant your more or less saying i know everything and could never be wrong.
If God did appear to me right now i would change my naughty ways and go preaching but not matter what evidence i showed you would put your hands over your ears and pretend you cann’t hear me. This is the difference between religion and free / scientific thinking ,we adapt to information you stagnate indefinitely due to dogma and control.

P.s what you believe in the afterlife is fine by me and i sincerly hope it works out for you but in this life i have to go with evidence not faith

The evidence that there is a complete lack of evidence proving that “God” does exist

Did you read the previous posts? It replaced the pagan holiday. I don’t care that it was such and such years ago except for the historical appreciation that we replaced the pagan holiday.

Wow.

You mean liberals are pagans?

We’ve been over this and over this and over this. It does NOT violate the constitution and if it does too bad. God is more important.

Yes, i do think it’s the best approach “bubba”

Verheek,

I did not say it violated the Constitution. I don’t take the Constitutional prohibitions lightly. The group just asked for information to make their own determination based upon US Supreme Court precedent. Many people only care about the law and Constitution when it favors their position. I think this is wrong.

Jonathan, You sound like a liberal progressive.

This is not a violation of the constitution! The constitution protects Christians from atheists if anything and it does not guarantee freedom FROM religion, but freedom OF RELIGION. Christians are having THEIR constitutional rights violated by stupid people like you.

The Constitution is hardly being violated. “The Government will make no law establishing nor restricting the free practice thereof”, I really wish people understood the full meaning of that sentence. Unfortunately, stupid is easy so I’ll explain. The Government cannot take a stance either way in the matter. Would you be offended if a Star of David were hung, Islamic symbols or Buddah? I can imagine no one would make the slightest peep as they are off the critics list and you’d be labeled a bigot if you did. These other groups are allowed to, if they wish to post the symbols of their faith as well. Atheism, was actually recognized by a federal court as a religion. This is a fact, much to the dislike and dismay of many Atheists. Atheists have their “religion” represented every time a governmental body breaks the law and rules in favor of atheistic views. The proper response to this banner is for the local government to let it be, provided proper permits and or fees were collected by the local government if they are due. For the local government to take any other action would violate Freedom of Speech and Religion.

2inthehat: you clearly do not understand the US Constitution. The Constitution prohibits Congress from certain actions, not Atheists. UGH.

Jim, you should read some Supreme Court case to understand how the first amendment has been interpreted. It is not how you wish it to be interpreted. And yes, if this is a private act and all fees paid and regulations followed, then surely keep it up. I agree.

I don’t understand why everyone is getting so nasty.

what evidence is that?

Faith is always a prerequisite for evidence. And the evidence is only for the one that belived. Sorry, that’s the way it works. It just may not be your time to believe. All will eventually read 1 Cor. 15:21-23. The best emperical evidence I can provide is from nature e.g. DNA, the structure of a living cell, other living structures like the irreducible complexity of the eye, joints etc. You don’t have to be much of a math wiz to figure out that the probability of DNA or any complex structure happening by chance is statistically impossible, you just can’t get order out of chaos that’s not how the universe works anyone who took high school physics can tell you that; entropy, etc.

Your hatred, intolerance and mis-informatiion is amazing! If you were truly wanting to seek the facts, you would see that less than 100,000 were killed in all the events you mentioned. Christians do NOT hold the record for killing people. Millions of Christians have been killed for their faith in the last 2000 years, much more than any damage done by stupid people who claimed to be Christians. Just because someone said they were going to go on a Crusade in the name of Christ does not make them a Christian! My husband barely made it out of the Sudan alive because he was delivering food and supplies in the name of Christ just 10 years ago. The family who took him in paid for his safety with their lives. So please, you truly need to do your research, because what you have stated is false. Your hatred for anything Christian is blocking your objectivity. Have a Merry Christmas Dustin, and may you truly find the peace of mind and heart you are so desperately seeking. I can’t imagine living with as much anger as your post seems to display.

And I could argue the reverse to you? You have NO physical proof that there is a god. Hence the very definition of “faith”.. Believing in something you cannot prove. I’m all for allowing you to believe what you want, when you want. But don’t expect me to just eat what you’re dishing out.

You can’t fix stupid.

bill, the troll

Please give us the exact date and which con is the artist and by the way please tell us exactly how we are fools and tell all of us your Bible credentials. See, all we are asking for are facts>. Suggest you get out of the way if you can from God.

Add to that…

The celebration of ANY OTHER RELIGION EXCEPT Christianity, including fabricated jokes like Kwanza, and let’s-kill-all-the-infidels Muslims….

I’m over it.

Not a religious fanatic, but I’ve always wanted to take these inbred anti-religion types like “The Freedom from Religion Foundation” and the ACLU, and execute my constitutional right to comb their hair with a baseball bat.

Max, he was being sarcastic.

no, you must follow the rest of the brainless sheeples!

so is the sign l” or not?

Adalai, They don’t know on Christmas morning they need to bow to the tree (god) to self absorb themselves into asimulation. michaelrood.com
May His peace be with you.

Reprobate, never knowing the eternal truths.

Be careful what yo say or you may reap what you sow.

Sam8131 Please listen to your mother and clean up the basement. You and your cohorts never were obedient to anything.

Yep, and yet they love to profit from the Christmas season at every turn.

I think the KOC were just promoting the idea of goodwill over materialism.

Don’t feed the trolls – or anti-semites.

Your racism is a little too obvious you might want to go back to your occupy protest and put back on your guy faux mask

Amen!

I’m sorry. How do the Jews fit into this equation? Freaking bigot.

Which of the hundreds of belief systems should I choose!!!?????!!!!

You guys DO flaunt it, Domingo. You don’t like it, then you can blow all of us on your way out of the country.

Listen don’t celebrate Christmas don’t take the day off work through the Christmas holiday. But leave us to our Christmas holiday.

And Domingo, just as you are protected by your first amendment rights of Freedom of choice, freedom of speech, and freedom of religion, SO ARE WE!!!!!!!!!!

JC THANK YOU……….. YOUR INFORMED……..Jonny Is A Dunce As Is Chris. If You Are Baptised In Jesus Christ’s Name…….You ARE ‘The Chosen People’. Jews hate the name “JESUS CHRIST’ After All……They Don’t Want To be Rremembered For KILLING The Son Of GOD.

1. The Constitution is clear. Congress shall make NO law prohibiting the free exercise of religion.
2. NO ONE knows when Jesus was born. He very likely was born on December 25. NO ONE knows the correct date, as the Bible does not give an exact date or time of year.
3. I’ll give you this one. The Winter Solstice is a pagan holiday. Christmas is not. Christmas is a Christian holiday.
4. NO ONE is stealing Christmas away from you. However, Atheists have a tendency of stealing Christmas away from Christians.
4. HO HO HO. Merry Christmas.

Sad that it is you, and NOT the previous poster, who ignored the facts, huh?

No. The exact words are, “Congress shall *make no law* respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” That means that Congress actually *has to* respect religion in general, in that they are not allowed to create laws that favor one religion over another, or laws that make religious adherence illegal.

1. The supreme court has determined that “congress” is any gov. agency. And you left out the first part of the 1st amendment-the one that is at issue here.
2. No one knows is the same as he wasn’t born on the 25th. PERIOD!
3. It was a pagan holiday stolen by Christians.
4. I’m an atheist, but I don’t want any holiday as mine-all work just fine for me.
5. I hope you realize all Americans don’t celebrate “your” Christmas.
6. You did not reveal ANY new facts from my original post.
Nice try!

No Milo, the government is to remain neutral on religion. Making religion illegal is not at issue here. No one is advocating for that. The issue is “favoring” the majority religion over other religions and the irreligious. This not about the free exercise thereof-stop twisting the issue!

Read Matthew 6 1. “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.”

No heaven for you Milo!

THARPIE…….LOOK UP “BOLSHEVIK” IT WILL OPEN YOUR IGNORANT MIND. THE ACLU STARTED BY JEWS. THE CHALENGE OF SCHOOL PRAYER BY ACLU<JEWS, They Hate Nativity Scenes Going Back to The Seventy's. THE TALMUD MAKES Hate Speech About Jesus Christ A Child's Play.

The communist heathen do like it, especially when the Christmas signs are not chosen by government employees and hung on public property,

No one is advocating masking religion illegal? Then what reason do the haters have for demanding that the government take down a sign on private property?
By the way, Hanukkah celebrates the fact that BC Jews refused to allow the government stop them from celebrating THEIR religion.