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Philly Lawmakers Attempt To Block Fla. Gun-Carry Loophole

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — A City Council committee Tuesday okayed a measured aimed at closing the so-called “Florida gun loophole” in Philadelphia. The sponsor admits, though, that a court challenge is likely.

Now, Philadelphia residents who are denied a gun permit by the state of Pennsylvania can go online and obtain a permit from the state of Florida — which issues permits to non-residents.

Everett Gillison, Philadelphia’s deputy mayor for public safety, testified in support of a new bill that would close the loophole here:

“It would not permit Pennsylvanians who are not licensed in Pennsylvania to use licenses obtained in other states, to justify carrying a concealed weapon in Philadelphia.”

But the author of the legislation, Councilman Darrell Clarke, readily admitted that gun advocates will challenge the measure if it is signed into law.

The NRA has in the past sued over the city’s ability to pass its own gun legislation.  Clarke joked about that likelihood, telling Gillison, “Look forward to being with you in court again.”

Reported by KYW Newsradio City Hall Bureau Chief Mike Dunn.

  • Traveler

    At the end of the day, this charade is a complete waste of taxpayer money. Read the PA Law. Philadelphia is prohibited from attempting to regulate firearms, their posession or use IN ANY MANNER. And Clarke knows it. The instant any attempt is made to use this “law” it will be erased from the books. It was an illegal act on the part of the City to even attempt its creation.

  • richardw

    For those of you unaware of the Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act or preemption here is what everyone is talking about: “6120. Limitation on the regulation of firearms and
    (a) General rule.–No county, municipality or township may
    in any manner regulate the lawful ownership, possession,
    transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition or ammunition
    components when carried or transported for purposes not
    prohibited by the laws of this Commonwealth.”

    Here is the penalty for doing so, which Clarke should be convicted of: Ҥ 6119. Violation penalty.
    Except as otherwise specifically provided, an offense under
    this subchapter constitutes a misdemeanor of the first degree.”

    Of course this will never happen because the District Attorneys are as crooked as the lawmakers in Philly and will never take them to trial.

  • Mike

    The main fact that the media purposely leaves out is that anyone who is issued a FL license is someone who is eligible for a PA license. The ppd love to deny people who are eligible for a license.

  • Bill

    Yea, here we go again. let the bad guys roll. when someone is sticking you up, are you going to ask him for his “GUN PERMIT”…Give me a break…..

  • Josh Dillon

    I’m sure the criminal element in Philadelphia are so upset about a new gun control law. Also, what BigAndy said.

  • DonM

    I’m sure some well-connected attorneys will walk off with a pile of the taxpayers’ cash. Anyone with a basic understanding of the English language can see that this conflicts with the PA Uniform firearms Act and will be struck down as soon as they try to enforce it. The only Philly gun laws still “on the books” are those that have never been enforced so nobody has “standing” to challenge them in court.

    • Alec

      I don’t get what you’re saying Don. Do you want this legislation?

  • Alec

    Red flags should be going up all over the city!! Once again the far left liberal agenda sponsored by Ed Rendell and Michael Nutter are trying to take away the rights of individuals to protect themselves and their families.

    Mayor Daley is calling from Chicago and he’s thrilled about this. Come on Philadelphians, wake up and oppose this effort. The liberals will never be happy until the cops are your only defense. “Help, help, I’m getting mugged!!” –I’m sorry, you’ll have to dial 911 and wait….and wait…..and wait….and maybe they’ll show up to help after your beat up, shot or worse.

    If you don’t do something now, you’ll come to regret it.

  • Clifflee

    why??? why??? are we wasting time and money with this ish. Conuncilman Clarke knows it’ll be stuck down but yet waste money and time on this.

  • Jacob Stoltzfus

    The people of philly should be outraged that the local government continues to waste tax money on creating new laws to only have them challenged and shotdown in court. Passing laws like this waste money when money is already tight. This law violates the PA State law of preemption as well as the Uniform Firearms Act.

  • BigAndy

    This story is in correct. The so called Florida loop hole is when a person is denied their Constitutional right to carry firearms by the CITY OF PHILADELPHIA they must resort to obtaining a License to carry firearms from Florida, a state which has a higher degree of restrictions and qualifications for obtaining the LTCFthan Pennsylvania.Florida has a reciprocity agreement with the state of Pennsylvania where each state honors the others LTCF. In Pennsylvania the COUNTY issues the LTCF, IN the COUNTY of Philadelphia the sheriff is also the chief of police who abuses his power to deny law abiding residents the right to bear arms in their own defense . This is Unconstitutional on both the state and federal levels. I HOPE this goes to court and the illegal actions of the City of Philadelphia are brought to light.

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